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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 10:03:56 GMT -6
With 24 teams how to we expected to backup our QB? The math doesnt work for everyone to have a starting QB and a bye week QB.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 11:17:32 GMT -6
This... is an excellent question.
EDIT: One way I can think of is to give average points that week. Maybe average points of QBs that did play?
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Jan 24, 2014 17:08:29 GMT -6
Yeah I have faced this problem in other 18+ leagues. You could potentially do an average of all QB's but honestly I am not sure there is a good answer. That is one of the major hiccups in all leagues this big is there are not enough starting QB's each week.
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Post by gkrown (Phoenix) on Jan 27, 2014 23:16:55 GMT -6
gosh this issue has been bugging me for the past three days. this is a big issue that we definitely need to hammer out ASAP.
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Jan 28, 2014 9:56:20 GMT -6
The average QB point situation might work except for what about people that do have another starting QB. Should they have the option of playing that QB or taking the average. It also means admins will have to go in and adjust scores for all teams that have the average.
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Post by Cyclones on Jan 28, 2014 11:06:18 GMT -6
Just make it a 32 team league then all teams will have a bye week with their QB and it evens out lol. But yeah 24 teams definitely makes it tough. I'd say the average idea is really all we can do unless we increase the league size to 32 or lower it to 16.
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Jan 28, 2014 12:24:16 GMT -6
Don't want a 32 teamer, would have to change a lot about the league. Also not sure I can find 32 players.
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Post by gkrown (Phoenix) on Jan 28, 2014 14:30:19 GMT -6
another problem w/ 24 is you have to factor in the 8 teams who draft two quarterbacks and wont have bye week issues.
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Jan 28, 2014 16:44:39 GMT -6
well...1.) its not a draft its an auction 2.) those QB's won't be cheap so they will be sacrificing cap room for a backup while everyone else is grabbing a starter. Would love to hear more ideas that don't involve changing the number of teams. Of course this will be a bigger discussion when we start filling up but for now its good to hash it out.
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Post by tracker (Boston) on Jan 28, 2014 18:56:20 GMT -6
I've never had to face this problem b4 & it will bug me till we come up with an answer..If there is one.
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Post by tracker (Boston) on Feb 2, 2014 16:21:22 GMT -6
This site is different than most I've been on. That's OK. Go Seattle Frank
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Post by tracker (Boston) on Feb 11, 2014 18:03:34 GMT -6
I think the only way to solve this problem is to have less teams.
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Post by zach (Seattle) on Feb 22, 2014 14:42:42 GMT -6
Dont forget, we are going to have this same issue with kickers and to a lesser extent running back and tight ends.
There are three possible solutions that I can think of, both have pros and cons: 1) After the draft, put teams against each other that have the same qb bye weeks as thier "main qb". Obviously if someone drafts 2 qbs, this will be a major issue. Also if someone loses their qb to injury and their backup is gone, then they are also screwed.
2) Take away the individual qb and just do it by team qb (Patriots TQB, Seahawks TQB, etc). This way, no team will ever be without a qb if there qb falls to injury. Then, you just place the teams who have the qb byes the same together for a matchup or give each fantasy team 1 bye per year based on the team's bye week and match them up.
3) We faced this situation in a football league where you only play with players from 1 NFL team. We just matched up NFL bye week teams together and each team plays one less week. Same could be done here with a little planning to avoid some teams getting screwed 1 week.
Personally, I think the only way it will be even is if you give each team a bye week where their "main" qb or team qb (if option 2 is picked) is on a bye.
Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 15:22:16 GMT -6
I have been given this some thought and I guess its all part of the strategy of building a roster to play within the rules and amount of teams. In other words if we only draft 1 QB because we want more chances of quality WR /RB etc then we take the risk of him getting injured or on a bye week. But its our choice when rostering.
After saying that, Zachs idea of a team QB is a really interesting idea. I like it. Helps with injuries for sure.
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Feb 22, 2014 19:04:09 GMT -6
I'll just go out there and say it but due to the unique stuff in this league a team QB is not an option. Plus I think its a poor way out.
Scheduling with similiar bye weeks is a possibility. I think this and possibly giving teams without a playing QB during byes a flat rate of points (perhaps the avg of all QBs for the year). Either way we will move forward knowing that you may want to go after two QB's and everyone has equal opportunity since it is auction style. We also all carry the risk that our QB gets injured. This discussion needs to keep going along with adding new members so that we can get all 24 owners opinions.
Kickers you will have the same issue and it shouldn't be an issue with RB's and WR's because of only needing 1 starting RB and most teams play 2 if not 3 RB's in a game. Granted they may not be starts but they accumulate some stats. Even more so for WR's.
I like the head to head by scheduling but I am sure that wouldn't work out every year for every team.
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Post by Kansas Cyclones on Feb 23, 2014 8:30:39 GMT -6
Does MFL allow you to have double player pool? Like Every QB could be owned by 2 teams? Obviously the same team can't own the same QB but if every QB is out there twice it would solve the shortage issue.
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Feb 23, 2014 11:30:06 GMT -6
It does allow double players, but I think it costs more and I am not sure you can isolate that by position.
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Post by gkrown (Phoenix) on Feb 23, 2014 12:43:03 GMT -6
its not fair to start the aucction or anything really until we have a finalized idea
if you are just going to hand out the avg points, why would i draft a second less valuable qb i rather jsut take avg over a matt lienhart.
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Feb 23, 2014 23:06:23 GMT -6
I agree and this will definitely be decided prior to auction. All the rules will be official and finalized prior to any auction starting.
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Post by Kansas Cyclones on Feb 24, 2014 22:59:15 GMT -6
That's why I say just lower it to 16 teams or try to get to 32. I really don't see any other good options, but I'm sure there is something were not seeing. Commish I know your active on the Dynasty League Forums. Have you asked people on there if they ever played in a league this size and what they did for QB's?
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Post by 4 Horsemen on Feb 25, 2014 11:01:31 GMT -6
I've played in a myself and most just take a hit during bye weeks. It usually balances out because most teams don't have a proper file in. With as many starter as teams play missing a QB isn't always critical and many teams still win.
We will only do 16 teams if that is all that sign up by June. Would prefer to get the full 24z
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:41:24 GMT -6
After consideration, I think I'm ok with just taking the hit on bye weeks. Risk/reward.
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Post by Leeds Cougars on Mar 31, 2014 10:50:25 GMT -6
How about when a teams plays a match up with a QB on a bye they start with say a -12 handicap, it could be a little tricky to set up to start with, but you should be able to adjust after the games are done.
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